Young indian12; thank you been living the templat :'(e for as long as I can remember.
Badger; good thought but we have Live oak out here too and it is definitely not the same... Diameter was too small, about 6-8".... The Live Oaks (at least the ones five miles down the road) of that height have a much larger diameter.
Bubby; thanks, bub
Oakie64; didn't know there were two types. Everyone just called that type of oak scrub... And it looks like I will try it.
Bryce; Anza, Southern California