Thank's again fellas, appreciate the comments from all of you.
Parnell, I think you are correct, I'm still learning but like ya said up to around 20 yards they are very deadly, and close shoot placement is very regular.
Pappy, C, Parnell.....Thank you much. Fellas these bows are just plain-jane.....they interest me because I'm trying to learn to live within any certain design and maybe get an idea what the original fellas was after.....and just maybe "why" they made 'em the way they did. In my neck of the woods, a lot of places are just flat-out thick and it's hard to believe but some places ya cant even see a deer at 15/20 yards so these bows work really well under those conditions......kinda like living within the bows limitations, eh?
rich