Elm tree id?

[okie64]

Anybody know what kinda elm tree this is? I would like to try out some elm and there are 4 of these growing really straight that I was thinkin about cuttin for bow wood. I thought it was winged elm but none of the branches or twigs have the little corky ridges on them. The pic of the leaves was taken today so they arent full grown yet but if I remember right from last summer the leaves werent very big even when full grown.

[PEARL DRUMS]

My guess is American, but quite frankly elm is elm. Cut that sumgun down and send half to me stat.

[JonW]

Slippery Elm will have a slight licorice kinda smell to the inner bark. Slippery leaves will be a little more "pointy" on the end than American. Either way if it is straight cut it.

[beetlebailey1977]

Yeah elm is elm cut some for me too!!!!   LOL

[PeteC]

I agree,it sure looks like American elm. God Bless

[okie64]

Good enough. Theyre comin down asap. I got a hankerin to build an elm bow.

[crooketarrow]

  IT'S SLIPPERY ELM I've cut a few of them. JON is right SLIPPERY leaves are more pointed and not a oval as other elms. Saying elms elm is like saying hickorys hickory. Woud you say that I think not. There are differences. All elms are good bow woods WHYICH,RED THEN SLIPPERY in that order those are the only 2 I have exsperance with. Some people conceder RED AND SLIPPERY the same. There close in in bow woods.

[okie64]

I always thought red and slippery were the same.

[beetlebailey1977]

Slippery elm and Red elm are one and the same.  Ulmus rubra

[okie64]

Went and cut one of the elms down yesterday. Bark didnt come off nearly as easy as I hoped it would and it was a beast to split this stuff but got her done nonetheless. The tree was pretty much white sapwood all the way through with no heartwood. Heres what I ended up with.

[coaster500]

Man if I removed that much bark in a day I'd be hospitalized!!!

Good lookin stuff Jamey

[Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive]

maybe it's just me....or   since the leave still look early,   but the bases seem pretty symmetrical which is an indicator of hop hornbeam, where elm leaves look very much the same except the base is lobed, one side larger than the other..

[Mangeur de lard]

You may be on to something there... the leaves are a bit early and the bark does remind me of hophornbeam. It seems like the bark is scaling and not as interlocking as american elm. Did you see any flowers on the tree? either way its good bow wood.

[okie64]

I just figured it was too big for hhb. These trees are about 14" diameter at chest height. The bark didnt really look like hhb to me, but then again Ive never seen one that big before so I guess it could be. There are 3 other trees that are identical to this one so I'll go back and check them out. Either way Im happy.

[toomanyknots]

maybe it's just me....or   since the leave still look early,   but the bases seem pretty symmetrical which is an indicator of hop hornbeam, where elm leaves look very much the same except the base is lobed, one side larger than the other..

Holy crap, never knew that. Thanks! The bark looks like elm to me, or what I think is elm. Like a cork elm almost. I think I might have a bunch of hop hornbeam around here which I know now due to you.  I cut a sapling last year which I thought was a elm, it was very hard and dense. I could not put a mark in the bare wood with my fingernails for the life of me, it was very hard. I debarked it and sealed the ends, but in a couple hours after doing that the thing blew up from the inside out with checking cracks, it sucked really. Does this sound like hop hornbeam?