When do you start calling yourself a bowyer?

[George Tsoukalas]

I was wonderin' when the sheriff was going to drop into the bowyer's bar to settle down them fellers. Step on over,Sheriff Pappy, and I'll pour you a coffee...black, no sugar? Man coffee. Jawge

[Peter-t123]

"what kind of weights do you build?"


Nothing heavy or anything. If it is for myself than I will make a bow 50# - 80#. I can build up to 125 fine but I popped a rib trying to go to around 150 on this bow (it was from an injury from a long time ago, some huge guy punched me when we was drunk and I don't know if he broke it but I couldn't move or bend or sit down or sleep or nothing without being in some pretty bad pain for like 2 months. I would of went to the hospitial but I had warrents at the time for some stupid stuff and was a bit paranoid.). Honestly I have zero experience with anything heavier and I don't want to.

yet you think you can teach someone to make 'good' warbows in a few days?

[Ifrit617]

"what kind of weights do you build?"


Nothing heavy or anything. If it is for myself than I will make a bow 50# - 80#. I can build up to 125 fine but I popped a rib trying to go to around 150 on this bow (it was from an injury from a long time ago, some huge guy punched me when we was drunk and I don't know if he broke it but I couldn't move or bend or sit down or sleep or nothing without being in some pretty bad pain for like 2 months. I would of went to the hospitial but I had warrents at the time for some stupid stuff and was a bit paranoid.). Honestly I have zero experience with anything heavier and I don't want to.

yet you think you can teach someone to make 'good' warbows in a few days?

Whoa guys... Peter-t123 don't you think that this has been heated up enough? Can everyone please stop questioning toomanyknots and let him keep his own opinions? Everyone has different ones and a I personally believe that yes a good bowyer could teach people to build good bows in just a few days with the proper guidance and mentoring.

Jon

[bubby]

yeah lets be cool and just let it go

[toomanyknots]

Would you like to enlighten me peter to the reason why I could not? (also, to note, I am definitely cool as a cucumber. I never mind debating anything on here, keeps me from annoying my wife)

[bubby]

no reason why you can't, those  bows were meant to be mass produced

[half eye]

all you fellas can call me anything ya like.....just not late for supper
rich

[paulsemp]

to add to half eye comment
call me anything you want but don't call me a compound shooter!

[mullet]

Pete-t123;

Please take Ifrit167's advice and lets keep this a simple debate without the cutting remarks. Pappy's asleep, the Deputies have Night Shift. 

[country]

so........... ......to make a polar bear trap.... you cut a hole in the ice... open a can of peas and place the peas around the hole..... when the bear comes to take a pea...  you kick him in the ice hole......     

[k-hat]

All this from such an innocent question

Around non bow folks i call myself a bowyer (and then explain).  Around (most of) you guys i call myself a novice.  Fair nuff?

I will say this, there is a BIG difference between walking someone through the bowbuilding process and having them produce a bow (even an exceptional one), and then letting them go on their own and do it again, whether a copy of the original or let alone a new style.  It's like walking a child through a few addition problems and saying you taught them addition (and then calling them a mathematician!)   Having done both (teach math and bowbuilding), I can attest to the similarity. 

I can't imagine learning this craft without PA and all the mentors I have.  I imagine i'd have broken a whole lot and persevered through sheer stubbornness!!

Hope I'm not stirring up instead of adding productive banter

[k-hat]

lol country, cut that out . . . my kids are asleep!

[toomanyknots]

"I can't imagine learning this craft without PA and all the mentors I have.  I imagine i'd have broken a whole lot and persevered through sheer stubbornness!!"

Can you imagine how much more boring making bows would be without the internet and this forum/paleoplanet/tradgang/the leatherwall/any other one I am forgetting? We would all be "master bowyers" just because we wouldn't have anything to do but make bows! lol I will say that if there is any one thing that the internet bowyer/bow making community or whatever I'm aloud to call it ( lol) has given to me, it would be inspiration from day one. Just all the bows that people make, I have come to have an individual fetish for, I believe, ever single type and design of bow from seeing so many types and designs that I liked and learning the intricacies of their construction. Where as I probably would not of taken an interest in a certain type of bow other wise.  And the ability to share something with people who will appreciate it opposed to most people I know in person in my day to day life who just don't put there heart into anything they do. You do make some good points k-hat. Bub, that is how I feel too.

so........... ......to make a polar bear trap.... you cut a hole in the ice... open a can of peas and place the peas around the hole..... when the bear comes to take a pea...  you kick him in the ice hole......     

Lol, what?!? 

[fishfinder401]

so........... ......to make a polar bear trap.... you cut a hole in the ice... open a can of peas and place the peas around the hole..... when the bear comes to take a pea...  you kick him in the ice hole......   

that made my night

[Pappy]

  it's all good.
   Pappy