OK he is my response to the latest ERC explosion. This time I used Primarily sapwood. even though the sapwood isn't nearly as pretty, it performs way better...just much tougher overall. and sinew backed it. Got the sinew really tight and straight. The heartwood is at least present in the grip and a little bit of working limb. Made for a real interesting looking bow. Seems to me the point of ERC is to make a really pretty bow, but unfortunately the pretty part is brittle. so this one is build on performance and boy was i surprised. This bow really slams an arrow. every bit as hard as Osage. really fast bow! its 66" long and 63# @ 26". so this is my "performance" cedar bow and i will build another sinew back outa heartwood like my long one in BOM but next time a little shorter to accommodate my 25" draw. That heart wood is gorgeous, but the sapwood is the "good" stuff so Cedar is definitely a catch 22. has about 75 shots or so through it today. my arm is really tired now so it was time to quit and take pics. seems plenty stable. every shot, I get more confidence in it. Tiller is a little stiff in the fades but I was a lil gun shy after the last fade blow up..lol thanks fer lookin at it- Ryan