actually after Bevan drew the eliptical on the one pic i did remove quite a bit from the outer third as i worked it out to 26", just to bring the tip's around with the eliptical, also looked good with the gizzmo, but sometimes s#%t happens, we'll see what comes of it, it's just like knapping, it aint a point till it's done and it aint a bow till it's finished, Bub