badger , dont know what(crowning) tiller is? to start she had a 6" handle (too long) 2" fades, 0.5" down to 3\8 limbs, 1.5" to 7\16 tips . 1 snake around a limb, 3 humps , and 2 short high crowns on the outer limbs . originally 72" but seemed weak about 2\3 way out on both. i cut 2 " off trying to corract it, better but not good. heated and strung it backward with more heat. straitend it up but still weak at 2\3. then i tried the recurve and snaped a tip. shortend again and killed it trying to string it without narrowing limbs . hope this makes sence cause the next one is just like it,..weak at 2\3 stiff tips 72" ..50# @24". i should make a couple boards first without all the crowns, humps and snakes . seems simpler that way . any way, i hope for more advise from you guys who can do this while nightwalking. butch