I think I started in "87. All my 1st points went into a frame that my ex put together and I don't know where they are. Crude and of stone I could scrounge anywhere.Started small and turned them out from flakes and mostly pressure flaked them. Learned percussion and added it to the pressure flaking and started making good ,working points.After awhile,I could copy points I found,a while later,I could make a set the same size for a batch of arrows, I am still about right there. I need to set in some knap ins and get up the ladder a bit farther. I have a knife blade from Cowboy and a large point from Tower, That are as fine a work as I have ever seen. They have inspired me to go farther. So,onward and upward. ' Frank