The mail lady brought me a box today! I couldnt figure where it came from at first,but I saw Dave,,tatoo Dave I says to myself!! He saw my post about using carbon shafts and sent me some proper shafts and trad points!!! Thank you Dave,Ill get on them asap,,bow season for us starts tomorow morning,im not going till sunday,trying to get rid of the hoop&croop,or hoof&mouth,or whatever this sickness is. Thanks again Dave!!!!!!!!!!!!