j, i'm using winchester factory load these days. these are giving me a 4" group at a 100 yards with this pistol. when i reloaded, i used 25gr. of 296 behind a 240gr xtp bullet. it was a hot load and i used it to take over 30 deer and a black bear with this pistol. this pistol has been fine tuned to be a long range gun. i replaced the factory trigger with a 2.5# custom trigger and all the internal parts have been polish to slick up the action.