nclong, sounds good on the stone point target. i just shot one of my bone point, multi-floral rose arrows, bare shaft and it shot like a dream, 15/20 yards wouldn't even need fletched, second shot, just the same, but my point pulled off in the layer foam target. There are other tips in there too, some day I'll tear it apart and get them all. Next time I make a tie-on point, it'll be notched some. Keep flingin' 'em.