Wow Pat, I just stumbled onto this post. I am getting excited and about ready to make a trip up to the hunting area. Not too long now and it will be here before we know it. Not too many weekends left till time to get the camp set, maybe I will rollup the walls of the tent so bears can come in and check it out with out destroying things. Just need to get the tent ( 14'x16' ) repaired around the stove pipe hole. This tent is not bug pruff so I hope the hornets and yellow jackets will leave Pat alone as he seems to attract them and has a reaction to them. I am also going to set up a shower so we can keep down the human scent and not be hunting elk while smelling like a locker room. At least my shooting seems to be no worse than normal and yesterday I centered a hay bale elk first shot at over 30 yards so I mostly need to work on the getting into shape thing also, more mountain bike riding (cardio and leg work). I also need to work on my bugling and cow talking techniques Pat also. Yep every one who has bow hunted elk knows that any elk on the meat pole is a good elk, and I will take any shot at any legal elk. I don't mind getting lucky the first out and have to kick back doing meat packing and camp chores duty. Hope the animals cooperate and we can pack out two animals, cant wait to make more elk chilli, and elk camp chicken fried backstrap. Kenneth