Hey to you Buckeye Guy, hope to see you at next Marshall rondo. My wife and I plan to go. Theres alot of bow magic in Mich. Around my neck of the woods its all zip-bow crossbows and compounds. I have been hunting recurves since being a teenager,but this is the first time with osage. I sold off my modern Bears and martin howates. Hello wonderfull Self Bows!!! Thanks John for putting photo,s up,I,m not good at the computer stuff,being old and growing up with tube radio,s and B-W tube tv,s with rabbit ears. Old school. But the self bow is as modern as today!!!