hey cowboy thanks! you know this site is a gold mine of information. I have said it many times before but you all really helped me out. Without this site I would not have picked up on this for years. I have wanted to knap for 20 years and just did not have the instruction available to make it happen. I am going to TN in a couple of week and cant wait to see the pros working the final stages of a point. I really want to learn how to do good finishing work. Are you going?