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Roger

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« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2007, 08:25:01 pm »
Great lookin tiller Steve...I bet you fare well with that one... ;)

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jamie

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« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2007, 08:42:05 pm »
excellent . i just wish i understood the whole mass thingy.

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« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2007, 08:46:51 pm »
 Iam with jamie, wish I understood also ! ???..........bob

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« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2007, 08:52:03 pm »
Beautiful bow Steve.....wow
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« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2007, 09:46:48 pm »
Ok I'm suitibly humbled, Very nice
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« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2007, 10:19:27 pm »
Thanks for posting it Steve. That is an incredible bow. I like the tiller.  Thanks for explaining the stiff tip thing. I am going to build a shorty and the stiff limb concept should stop it from stacking. I like the thick boo concept too.  Justin
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marvin

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« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2007, 11:28:39 pm »
Jamie,  Kowechobe and others

Steve's focus on mass is actually pretty simple. Most everyone already does it intuitively but Steve has developed a formula to give more predictable and consistent results. He's removed a lot of the guess work.

The idea is to design and tiller the bow such that there is just the right amount of mass for the intended draw weight. If the limb is not wide or long enough then the bow will be "underbuilt" and start to take excessive set. If the limbs are too wide or long then the bow is overbuilt thus wasting energy moving the limbs instead of the arrow. Balance. It's actually nothing new per say just a refined and quantified way of applying a principle we have already learned.

I'm oversimplifying of course and if I'm off base then I'm sure Steve will come along and explain it better.

Steve, I know you've posted this several times but if you don't mind could you post your formula here again and then apply it to your bow that you've posted on this thread as an example. Walk us through it. How you not only use the formula but how you approach tillering the bow to reach or meet the mass goal that the formula predicts.
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« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2007, 11:59:40 pm »
Do you figure, ahead of time, the mass weight of a preconceived bow or do you weigh the bow afterwards to see if you built it where it should be?  :-\
 I'm like Jamie and Bob. ???  its a bit over my head...but I willing to listen and learn.  ;)  Pat
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Rich Saffold

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« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2007, 12:33:01 am »
I think you got a winner Steve. I cant think of what I'd do different having tinkered with that ratio and style a bit. The only aspect will be the humidity/heat where the contest will be judged is much higher than what your bow has been tillered in. but you are over in the poundage so it shouldn't be an issue. The thicker boo backing is the ticket on the heavier bows. Oh one more thing..just say tell the judges its "stained" osage ;) ;D, your name is Dave, and you are from Mississippi! :D

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« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2007, 12:55:25 am »
Thats awesome Steve! I didnt know you could leave boo that thick,I cant quite wrap my mind around that :D, but obviously it works!....Brian
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« Reply #25 on: June 13, 2007, 01:51:12 am »
Simply awesome Steve. Wow look at that unbraced profile that is very impressive. How wide are the limbs?

 We could go on and on about the great combination of IPE and bamboo but this bow is all about the man behind the bow. Way to take it to the limit!
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« Reply #26 on: June 13, 2007, 03:09:55 am »
Thanks for all the great response, I will start another thread on my mass project. Steve

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« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2007, 04:24:04 am »
If that bow doesn't get recognition from the contest judges, than something is very wrong.


I guess it's simple Marvin, but I, like others can't even start to understand how it works ::) ::)
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Re: Ambush bow
« Reply #28 on: June 13, 2007, 05:11:32 am »
Very nice looking bow steve. marlon

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« Reply #29 on: June 13, 2007, 06:26:56 am »
Very nice Steve,Tiller looks great and the bow is a beaut !!! :)
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