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Offline eflanders

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Ebony options / Phenolic sources
« on: May 01, 2011, 12:30:47 pm »
CAn you guys please advise me of some good sources of black phenolic for risers or some wood option to ebony?   I love the color accent ebony offers plus it's density especially in risers...
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Offline Del the cat

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Re: Phenolic sources
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2011, 03:13:00 pm »
Phenolic isn't very primitive, so we probably won't know where to get it...
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Offline Kegan

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Re: Phenolic sources
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2011, 03:54:32 pm »
Bingham's. It's a pain to work, stinks, and is a lot less fun to use than fun colored wood though ;)

Offline eflanders

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Re: Phenolic sources
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2011, 11:24:07 pm »
Del I prefer to work with wood believe me, but finding ebony and when you do it's cost is WOW!

Offline Frode

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Re: Phenolic sources
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2011, 11:32:26 pm »
Don't know if this will apply, but I've used black leather dye on various woods, and it goes on really black.  I've used it on red oak, port orford cedar (arrow shafts), and I think, maple.  Goes on just as black on all, even your hands, and a lot cheaper than ebony  ;D.
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Offline eflanders

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Re: Phenolic sources
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2011, 11:40:55 pm »
Thanks Frode!  I really would much prefer to use wood rather than plastic.

Offline eflanders

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Re: Ebony options / Phenolic sources
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2011, 11:49:40 pm »
Frode, 

Can you please post some pictures of the black leather dyed wood?

Offline Peacebow_Coos

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Re: Ebony options / Phenolic sources
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2011, 12:29:14 am »
ebay man, take your chances but I've done alright off there.

Offline ErictheViking

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Re: Ebony options / Phenolic sources
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2011, 02:03:22 am »
woodworkers use holly because it is so white, it takes a black dye really well. even heard it was used on piano keys for the ebony.
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Offline PatM

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Re: Ebony options / Phenolic sources
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2011, 11:39:36 am »
Black leather dye is good for a self bow that will be finished with oil and wax but I don't like it for applications where pieces will be glued or cozated with Epoxy or varnish. They don't actually stick to it as well as you may think.
 Aniline dye is always a better choice for that. Aniline comes in Ebony black and is easy to use.

Offline Kegan

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Re: Ebony options / Phenolic sources
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2011, 04:41:56 pm »
When using Urethanes I just use Minwax ebony stain. After four or fie coats the bow is BLACK and shiny. Sure takes a nice finish after that :)

Offline Kent D.

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Re: Ebony options / Phenolic sources
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2011, 04:32:59 pm »
If you are bent on using phenolic, make your own.  It is real easy.  black material and a good two part epoxy is all you need.  If you look on the internet, im sure you will find many sites for making it.