Well guys I'm proud of this one. I spent $30 on this piece of rock and i was so scared of messing it up that i meticulously planned every flake. I have close to 5 hours in this one dove tail. I would have liked to have notched it a little deeper but one stalled out. it was 9 inch rock when i started and the finished Dove Tail is 8 3/4 inches. This was a sweet piece of rock worth every dolor.