Wow guys thanks a bunch!
For those that asked it's about 68" ntn and 43lbs at 27 inch about 47-48 at 28 inch.
Matt, yeah I know what you mean your way would be more efficient but I was following a particular style and apparently they didn't know that either.
Anz, Can't lie there is a fair amount of hand shock but I was expecting that with this design. I'm hoping my next will be more Wampanoag style and that the hand shock thing won't be an issue. I say "fair" amount but I wouldn't say it's uncomfortable.