I haven't tried the kits but everything else has been supurb. I expect that you will be pleased. You might consider picking some folks' brains on here before ordering a kit though. If you're gonna mess something up, it might be better to mess up some cheap/free wood before messing up a kit. Or, maybe, getting the kit will allow you to keep from messing something up in the first place. I dunno; just something to think about. Pine Hollow is great though, either way.