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Offline sailordad

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Re: Roughing out?
« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2011, 08:01:49 pm »
michael,that is a ferriers rasp  ;)
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Offline toomanyknots

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Re: Roughing out?
« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2011, 08:02:33 pm »
"just push harder"

Ha.



I think I mighta pushed too hard. Now it's a normal sized rasp, :):):)

Edit: "What tool am I supposed to use to shave down the thickness at a taper?"

You mean the taper from handle to limb? You should use a ferriers (now I know how to spell it) rasp to take the corner out of the glued up piece for the handle so it's not in your way, then buy one of those rasps that are slightly rounded instead of just a flat rasp, and you can get a curved thickness taper from the handle into the limb with it where as a flat one wouldn't work. And use a ferriers the rest of the way.

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"The way of heaven is like the bending of a bow-
 the upper part is pressed down,
 the lower part is raised up,
 the part that has too much is reduced,
 the part that has too little is increased."

- Tao Te Ching, 77, A new translation by Victor H. Mair

Offline sailordad

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Re: Roughing out?
« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2011, 08:17:15 pm »
ya that must have been a  real inexpensive rasp if it borke like that from pushing on it'
i have a real cheap nicholson #49
its seen many board bows,and even more staves
i push hard,aint never had that happen

i use my band saw for cutting a stave down some and cutting the profile
then i use a sure form rasp untill i am at floor tiller
then i switch to my cheap rasp
then i use scraper,sandpaper and thats pretty much it
as far as shaping any part of the bow goes
i use either sure form or rasp at making the slope for the fades
handle shaping etc
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Offline toomanyknots

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Re: Roughing out?
« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2011, 10:05:46 pm »
"ya that must have been a  real inexpensive rasp if it borke like that from pushing on it"

Come on now, I'm just messin with ya.  ;D I aint he-man or nuthin, broke it like october or something after dropping it out a window. Still gets the job done. 

"i use my band saw for cutting a stave down some and cutting the profile"

I haven't had the convenience of a bandsaw or any saw but a hand saw ever and my process goes straight from axe to rasp, so it can be a royal pain sometimes.

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"The way of heaven is like the bending of a bow-
 the upper part is pressed down,
 the lower part is raised up,
 the part that has too much is reduced,
 the part that has too little is increased."

- Tao Te Ching, 77, A new translation by Victor H. Mair

Offline sailordad

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Re: Roughing out?
« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2011, 10:16:04 pm »
my first 6 board bows
and my first stave were all done with nothing but a scraper
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Offline Bevan R.

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Re: Roughing out?
« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2011, 10:20:52 pm »
Ever hear of an ADZ? Kind of a sideways ax. Might be usefull in a situation like this.

Bevan R
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Offline toomanyknots

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Re: Roughing out?
« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2011, 10:22:45 pm »
"my first 6 board bows
and my first stave were all done with nothing but a scraper"

6? Man, you are a beast. I guess that you are right, just part of the game.

"Ever hear of an ADZ?"

I had no clue that they sold those,  :o  
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"The way of heaven is like the bending of a bow-
 the upper part is pressed down,
 the lower part is raised up,
 the part that has too much is reduced,
 the part that has too little is increased."

- Tao Te Ching, 77, A new translation by Victor H. Mair

Offline Traxx

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Re: Roughing out?
« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2011, 10:28:47 pm »
Did you buy that Rasp new?Cause i have never had a rasp break like that,unless it was stepped on,by a shod horse.
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Offline Bevan R.

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Re: Roughing out?
« Reply #23 on: March 04, 2011, 10:36:01 pm »
If you still have that piece of broken rasp. make your own adz.

Bevan R
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Offline toomanyknots

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Re: Roughing out?
« Reply #24 on: March 04, 2011, 10:41:30 pm »
"Did you buy that Rasp new?"

Naw, had it about a year and a half. Maybe a little less. It's whatever brand tractor supply co carries, can't imagine it's great quality. Fell out a window from my night stand and hit the concrete last october so ya can't really blame it on the rasp though.
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"The way of heaven is like the bending of a bow-
 the upper part is pressed down,
 the lower part is raised up,
 the part that has too much is reduced,
 the part that has too little is increased."

- Tao Te Ching, 77, A new translation by Victor H. Mair

Offline Michael C.

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Re: Roughing out?
« Reply #25 on: March 04, 2011, 10:43:47 pm »
Woah how the heck did that happen, I could probably stand on mine I don't think it would do that.
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Offline Lee Slikkers

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Re: Roughing out?
« Reply #26 on: March 04, 2011, 11:22:49 pm »
Quote from: Bevan R. on March 04, 2011, 10:36:01 pm
If you still have that piece of broken rasp. make your own adz.

Bevan R

Bevan, that adz is awesome!  Got a how-to or a build-a-long for making one like that?

Thanks~
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Offline Bevan R.

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Re: Roughing out?
« Reply #27 on: March 04, 2011, 11:34:11 pm »

I found it here...

http://paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/topic/21724/t/Northwest-Coast-Adz-natural-crook-handle.html


It has been added to my 'To Do' list. ;)

Bevan R
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Offline Traxx

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Re: Roughing out?
« Reply #28 on: March 04, 2011, 11:50:33 pm »
If ya can,next time,try n find a place,that carries ,higher end Farrier supplies.Getcha a Save edge rasp.You will see a huge difference in them.I have Givein some of my Used ones to folks,such as Ed Scott and John Strunk and they couldnt believe how sharp they were,after being "Used".For the Profession,im extremely picky bout my rasps.Save edge,go for about 25 bucks,but for wood hoggin,i doubt you will need another one,anytime soon.
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Offline toomanyknots

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Re: Roughing out?
« Reply #29 on: March 04, 2011, 11:56:01 pm »
Good thing to know 2traxx.
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"The way of heaven is like the bending of a bow-
 the upper part is pressed down,
 the lower part is raised up,
 the part that has too much is reduced,
 the part that has too little is increased."

- Tao Te Ching, 77, A new translation by Victor H. Mair
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