Primitive Archer Bow Trade

[fishfinder401]

Noel, every bow shipped should be shootable on arival so a bow string is manditory. If you don't know how to make one, now will be a good time to learn. If you are going to build bows you need to know how to build a string.  The person you send a bow to won't necessarily be the person you recieve a bow from. A bow without a string is a stick!  
 A note enclosed with the bow you ship out will help you and your reciepient become more familiar with each other. One of the main purposes of this trade is the personal reactions and knowledge we will all share and recieve and the friendships made and/or strengthened. Rich emphasized this from the very beginning of this trade.  Also, each bow sent out should be signed by the maker, to the reciepient and dated. Other pertainent info included should be the wood used, overall length(either n/n or t/t), draw weight and length.   Some folks use "Sharpie" indelible pens for signing a bow. I prefer India ink. Be sure whatever you use is permanent and will not fade over time. These bows could easily be party of archery history in 100 years so lets let our future bow enthusiastits know who we are.  

ok thanks for letting me know, im new to all of this and wanted to make sure, and dont worry until i learn to make a string, i have places to have them made, iv'e used them before and was extremely happy
thanks for letting me know
noel
PS: the strength bow i was asking for in this without a string would be more like a telephone pole 

[Pat B]

For what you pay for a string you could buy a roll of B-50 and make 10 strings. It is a very easy process once you have done it.

[JW_Halverson]

 Also, each bow sent out should be signed by the maker, to the reciepient and dated. Other pertainent info included should be the wood used, overall length(either n/n or t/t), draw weight and length.   Some folks use "Sharpie" indelible pens for signing a bow. I prefer India ink. Be sure whatever you use is permanent and will not fade over time. These bows could easily be party of archery history in 100 years so lets let our future bow enthusiastits know who we are.  

I agree.  You may not feel that your bow is all that important, but the recipient WILL. 

[fishfinder401]

For what you pay for a string you could buy a roll of B-50 and make 10 strings. It is a very easy process once you have done it.

i know, where could i get instructions to start, for e starting is the hardest part

[Cameroo]

There's a link to a couple videos that really helped me in this post I put in the how-to section.  There are easier ways to make a string than the flemish twist, but it's my favorite type.  Check it out if you're interested:

http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,22001.0.html

[Pat B]

Another situation has been brought to my attention. Bow weight!...and it brings up something else also, one of the main reasons for this trade.
 First, most of folks involved in this trade are not capable of or have a desire to build very heavy weight bows; material wise or experience wise. I'm not going to put an upper weight limit on the trade but each person should be pleased enough with the bow he or she receives if they are following the spirit of this trade. Again I will reiterate...This trade is about putting your best effort into the trade bow you are building for someone else... andnot the bow you will recieve! That just happens to be a by product of the trade...a nice one at that but not the main gest of the trade.
  If a 30# to 60# bow doesn't interest you maybe you are in the wrong trade group. This trade is about you building a bow of reasonable draw weight for someone else to enjoy. Ideally we want to come within a few pounds of the weight desired by the reciepient. In most cases the weight is within a 10# (ie. 45#-55#, 50#-60#, etc) range. You should try your best to end up somewhere within that range.  All of these situations will help the new guys here develop the skills and confidence to build bows and not just accept any old bow that you can built. Make a reasonable goal that you can achieve and give it your best shot to make it happen. If you come in a little under weight but are totally satisfied with the results, then that is your bow for the trade. If, on the other hand you are just whipping out a bent stick and waiting for your new bow to come in please don't waste our time and efforts just to satisfy yourself.
  With all the participants that will be involved this is an excellent learning experience for everyone, seasoned bowyers and newbie alike. We can all learn a new technique, a new design and the way to achieve it, or the best route to take to hit your desired draw weight at that specific draw length. Using the right wood for the desired design or the proper design for the wood you have available to you will also be part of the learning experience. 
  If anyone else comes up with thoughts about the trade or possible problems, please speak up. Once the due date arrives and the names are all drawn and reciepients are sellected we will start a PA Trade Bow thread to follow the progress of the trade.
 Anyone that wants to start their own thread or build along for this trade, please do so. It is all part of the learning and teaching process and will help showcase potential problems and successes. And again, a picture is worth a thousand words. Pics help us diagnose problems a lot better than just you trying to explain to us what the problem is.

[John K]

Well said Pat !  It's not about getting, it's about giving 

[wildkatt]

Sorry guys rite after i posted im in i had a masive comp. crash. Well im back and here we go.


Draw 26'' to 30''

Weight  55# 65#

Right hand with or without shelf

Im a new bowyer so this should be fun.


Katt

[half eye]

Hey Pat,
      Very nicely said, sir. This old man likes the idea of the PA members gettin closer together, do a little learnin and teachin both, make some new friends......about as good as it's ever gonna get.
      Any of ya new guys...put your heart into it, enjoy the ride and remember, personaly I'd love to have a bow from ANY of ya 
rich

[Easternarcher]

Everyone, I have been watching closely as this trade evolves and believe me it is very tempting to get in on it.....but I'm not sure if I can commit the time needed to build a good bow for the trade.
Is there(and I'm sure there is), a cut-off deadline to enter?

I just haven't commited to it yet. Still a big part of me wants to get in on the fun....

[John K]

You can sign up until February 28th

[Pat B]

Easternarcher, as of now Monday, February 28, 2011, 600pm. Plenty of time to reconsider.  

[Elktracker]

1 JustinNC .................right hand,  29" draw, 45# or higher  GOOD
2 half eye ..................right hand 27" draw, 45# to 55#, off the hand, us shipping only  GOOD
3 cammadore ............ right hand, 28 to 30" draw 30" preffered, 40# to 50# off the hand or with rest GOOD
4 Bevan R. ................ right hand 27" draw 50# or lower, with shelf, can ship world wide GOOD
5 osage outlaw ..........Right handed, 55-60# @ 26"Prefer a shelf or some kind of a rest   GOOD
6 jonathan creason..... lefty, 28", 50# and up, no preference on shelf or not   GOOD
7 Matt S. ...................right hand, 28" draw preffered but can be from 25" to 32" if design calls for that, 30# to 60# GOOD
8 Lee Slikkers ............right hand, 27 to 28" draw, 45# to 55# GOOD
9 tattoo dave .............left or right hand, 27" to 28" draw  GOOD
10 jackcrafty .............right hand, 26" to 28" draw, 50#  GOOD
11 Cameroo ..............left hand, 28" draw. 50# to 60# prefered, Will ship anywhere in North America  GOOD
12 sailordad ..............RIGHT hand, 28" draw, 45# to 55# with or without shelf   GOOD
13 Elktracker .............right hand, 24" to 28" draw, 40# to 65# prefer 55#, shoot off hand but will take whatever, only ship in the us  GOOD
14 ken75............right handed 28 inch draw any weight, shelf or not dont care....surprise me   GOOD
15 sa .......................left hand, 26" to 27" draw, off the hand, 40# to 60#   GOOD
16 John K .................right hand, 26" draw or longer, 30# and higher GOOD 
17 JW Halverson........right hand, 26" draw, 50# to 60# (No Yew please wrong climate)   GOOD
18 NTD ....................right hand, 28" draw, 50# to 55# "willing to ship to Oh Canada"    GOOD
19 Koan ...............right handed, 26", up to 55#...what ever style you like to make I would love to have   GOOD
20 Hickory Bill ..........right hand, 27" to 28" draw, 50# to 55#, floppy rest or small shelf, will ship us only preferably  GOOD
21 DELLis ................right hand, 26" draw, 55# to 75#, with or without shelf, will ship wherever   GOOD
22 Pat B ..................right hand, 45# to 55# (to 60#) @ 26", prefer off hand or floppy rest, can ship within us only  GOOD
23 Almostpighunter..45#-60# @ 28"-29" (29" preferred), off hand or right-handed rest   GOOD
24 hillbilly61 ............45-50 @ 26 right hand. Selfbow of the hand or floppy. Otherwise a shelf,   GOOD
25 hammertime ...... I'm lefty 55# or greater @ 26" draw   GOOD
26 Dvshunter............Right handed, shelf or no shelf, I'll shoot anything but 40-80 is best   GOOD
27 Parnell ...............right handed, either way on a shelf, 28" 55# give or take GOOD
28 wildKatt.............Draw 26'' to 30'', Weight  55# 65#,Right hand with or without shelf   GOOD
29 tetaxidermy.......... right handed 40-60lbs @ 27'' would prefer US only shipping, arrow rest doesn't matter  GOOD
30  Michael C. ....draw length - 28 inches, weight range - 55-65 right handed, no rest prefered   GOOD
31 fishfinder401..... rght hand, 32 draw and would prefer no rest and preferably 100+lbs or 50# or more   GOOD
32 jthompson1995...Right handed - 26-27" draw, no shelf/rest preference, 40-60 lbI would prefer not to ship internationally  GOOD
33 gstoneberg .......Right handed, 50-55lbs, 28" draw, prefer shelf but will shoot anything   GOOD
34 stringman .........Right-handed, 50-60# @ 29" draw, backed, plain, any wood, shelf or no doesn't matter    GOOD
35 wildman ........40#-60# right handed 28in     GOOD
36 Sidewinder ....Right handed  27"  50-60# right handed shelf or not does'nt matter. Anywhere in North America  GOOD
37 Mangeur de lard...45 - 50 lbs at 27'', right hand. Anything goes for the shelf/handle, style, will ship canada or us
38 woodsrunner....28" up to 55# Right handed shelf or off the hand    GOOD
39 bcbull......r/h 50-65#@28
 
This is the updated list, let me know if something is wrong or needs changed and I will fix it. Also I put a GOOD at the end of your info if I have your address. If there is not a GOOD after your info I need you to pm it to me please so the person makeing your bow can ship it to you.

 Pat b announced:  Monday, February 28, 6:00pm will be the deadline to sign up for the bow trade. No one will be accepted after that time! Once all the names are in and all the info is correct the builder/reciepient will be pared up .Also July 4th, 2011 is the absolute last ship date!, You can ship your bow when you are satisfied it is finished and shot in well. We want to keep the reciepient suprizes good ones!, every bow shipped should be shootable on arival. A note enclosed with the bow you ship out will help you and your reciepient become more familiar with each other. Other pertainent info included should be the wood used, overall length(either n/n or t/t), draw weight and length. One of the main purposes of this trade is the personal reactions and knowledge we will all share and recieve and the friendships made and/or strengthened.Also, each bow sent out should be signed by the maker, to the reciepient and dated.   Some folks use "Sharpie" indelible pens for signing a bow. I prefer India ink. Be sure whatever you use is permanent and will not fade over time. Once the due date arrives and the names are all drawn and reciepients are sellected we will start a PA Trade Bow thread to follow the progress of the trade. Also please reffer to post #155 pg.11, #143 pg.10 if you havent read them yet.   

If anyone sees any thing that needs fixed with the list, let me know please. Also when you PM me your shipping address PLEASE do it like this so I dont have to go look and find your number and write your name, I can just copy and paste

#13 Elktracker    Josh shmoe
                        1122 Yew st west
                        Tillamook Or 97141

Thanks Josh

[bareshaft12]

  This is too cool to pass up Im in . Draw 28 . pull 52 to 55 pounds.Name- Buster Thompson,1305 perkins ave.scott city,mo. 63780.

[bareshaft12]

  This is too cool to pass up Im in . Draw 28 . pull 52 to 55 pounds.Name- Buster Thompson,1305 perkins ave.scott city,mo. 63780.