Thank you much Bullitt. Yes,I do induce reflex on a 2X6 form. I cut the elm in the spring,split the log in half,give it a week or two to stabilize.Split out the staves,strip the bark,lay out the bows,take the stave to floor tiller,then clamp it to the form. I leave it on the form a month,remove it,then start weighing it.When it stops losing weight,I start tiller.If it is dry,I take it to brace height,then heat treat(on the same form).Give it 3 days to stabilize,(per Marc St.Louis in TBB vol.4),then finish it. The hard elms are way up there for me,but I also like eastern Hophornbeam,and Hickory.But my top favorite is Osage.It's just an all-around tough wood,and you don't have to heat treat it to get good performance.I have osage bows that have literally had hundreds of thousands of arrows shot through them. God Bless