N2, I Perry reflexed it. The tips were 5" up on blocks. I didn't glue on a handle , used leather to build up under the grip later. The flat handle let me clamp it down to the bench. It took some set in the outer limbs during tillering, but still with it unstrung the back is 7/8" off the floor. I had read Marc St. Louis's article a few months ago who said with ipe you're lucky to hold a couple inches reflex with 5 initially. ( I think- now I can't find the article)