pat, thanks! - the buckskin i baught as semish tanned, i'm not sure. but it's the thickest and best quality i have seen so far. it's a big piece of european red stag.
i guess i'll add a bit of fur lining to make it real quiet!
thanks again, frank
ps: i like the idea of key's side quiver on the other thread, maybe i'll do on like that from another badgerfur i have.