Thanks everyone for the imput. I was pretty sure that you did Art, but was just wondering who else did this. I have for some time, using different combinations, but I do find that my shooting is not as consistent as I can be when doing so. I have always shot, buy force of habit, somewhat using the point as a reference, not as a gap shooter, but as to be in line vertically. If I could ever get to the point that I never see the point, like you Art, it would be great and very usefull when using different woods and lengths.