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Offline snag

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1st try with a hazel nut stave
« on: December 06, 2010, 08:38:52 pm »






As you can see in the first picture the stave has a little reflex in one limb and deflex in the other. Since this is my first try at a selfbow I wasn't sure what to do so I just made a bow with what the wood gave me. I guess I could steam the deflexed limb...? What do you think as far as where I am with this now?  Total rookie!



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Offline half eye

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Re: 1st try with a hazel nut stave
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2010, 08:50:46 pm »
Hey snag,
       It looks to my old eyes that the limbs are wanting to get symetrical (when bent a little) just the way they are. Think if ya keep an eye on their symetry as ya tiller it should work good, like it is. If they get kitty-wampus (technical term  :D) as ya go along you might want to heat correct at that time.....JMO
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Offline Little John

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Re: 1st try with a hazel nut stave
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2010, 10:41:21 pm »
Looks like you could go either way with it, I think it would probably be fine as is but might be nicer if trued up a bit. I might get it to bending a little more and see what happens.     Kenneth
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Offline Pat B

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Re: 1st try with a hazel nut stave
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2010, 01:40:54 am »
The right limb looks 1/3 longer than the left limb.  ??? ...or it that my old eyes?
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Re: 1st try with a hazel nut stave
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2010, 05:20:27 am »
Looks like you need to take a fair bit off the belly.
There's a few Hazel bows on my website (click the globe symbol under my username), it might give you some help.
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Offline Holten101

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Re: 1st try with a hazel nut stave
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2010, 06:55:55 am »
One thing to be aware of with Hazle is that it is (very) weak in compression, so make your belly as flat and wide as possible and considder dropping a stiff handle section! Hazle make excelent bows (one of my fastest bows ever was hazle....WAS, because it crysalled). Also I would make the reflexed limb the upper limb, because of the tendency to make reflexed limbs weaker to conform to the tiller.

As someone else said...looks like you can scrape a fair deal more, it is in what I would call the floor tillering stage by now;-)

Good luck mate...I bet it will be a succes if you keep in mind to keep the belly flat and wide;-)

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Re: 1st try with a hazel nut stave
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2010, 08:03:56 am »
Also might want to use a shorter length of string for tillering   ;)

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Re: 1st try with a hazel nut stave
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2010, 11:13:22 am »
Thanks for the input guys. Being a rookie and knowing how I like to hurry and get things done this has been a challenge..."to go slow"! I think I'll stick just tillering it with it's natural shape and see how it comes along like Half Eye said. When you say put a "short string" on it, does that mean a string of the length you would use to actually shoot it with? Or do I use a string the length of the bow?  Sure is fun.

Pat, you had me second guessing myself...they are 1/2" difference. But in the pictures they sure don't look like it.
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Offline acker

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Re: 1st try with a hazel nut stave
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2010, 12:37:26 pm »
It does look more than just a 1/2" .
Would you mind to messure it for us from the ends to the center of the handle ?

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Re: 1st try with a hazel nut stave
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2010, 01:02:13 pm »
I use a string that's about as long as the bow is - maybe a couple of inches extra.  Flemish loop on one end, timber hitch on the other.

You only want to use a shorter string when your ready to brace the bow.

That hazel's got some nice character to it!  Hope to try it some day.

Keep us posted ;)

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Re: 1st try with a hazel nut stave
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2010, 01:37:58 pm »
30"X30.5", middle of handle.
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Re: 1st try with a hazel nut stave
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2010, 07:20:48 pm »
 :)
Thank you snag .

What  is your draw length and  which drawweight should the bow gonna have ?

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Re: 1st try with a hazel nut stave
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2010, 07:56:12 pm »
My draw length is 28.5" and I would love it to come in at 50+#. But I don't know anything about how to achieve that.  I need to put up a matrix board to check it as I tiller it.  I don't know if I'll be able to make this wood bend to 28" and still keep the poundage up.  With this stave I'm just trying to make a functional bow I guess. This is a learning experience. I figure if I can make a few that are successful I'll pull out the osage or yew staves I have and see if I can make a hunting bow.
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Re: 1st try with a hazel nut stave
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2010, 05:52:49 pm »
If you want 50# at 28" on a Hazel bow that short I think you will need it to bend through the handle.
(Probably need heat treating the belly too)
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Offline snag

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Re: 1st try with a hazel nut stave
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2010, 06:05:45 pm »
I split a 75" long osage stave the other day. I think I can get 3 bows out of it. What is the minimum back width I should go if I am wanting a 50#-55# bow?

I did some more scraping up near the fades to get more bend in the limbs on this hazelnut bow. Should I work the bow (draw it) 20 or 30 times each time I take some wood off? Or should I just pull it and let it stay drawn for some time?
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