for me its 20yds or less
but it also depends on what im hunting for
deer i will take shots at 20yds if i ever get the damn chance
for turkey,which im currently hunting,its 15 yds or less
but i cut all my lanes from my blind out to 25 yds today
just so i can see a little better,under growth in the woods here in mn this time of year is thick
like hair on a gorilla thick
well not just so i can see better,i got drawn in the lootery for gun this fall
but i do have my hick selfbow i made this summer with
if they come close enough i'll shoot the bow
if they just come in my lanes and stay at the far end
the ol 835 ulti mag will reach out and touch them real nice like