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Offline bigfish

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bow on cover of sept issue
« on: September 07, 2010, 12:11:28 am »
new hear but im a long time reader of the mag. have made several backed bows and i build and design leverlimb compounds but i have seen and always wanted to build a bow like the one on the fromt of the new sept. issue can anyone shed some light on these bows as far as length, profiles, type and design

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Re: bow on cover of sept issue
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2010, 11:25:44 pm »
anyone out there have anything on this type of bow even the type so i can research it

Offline profsaffel

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Re: bow on cover of sept issue
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2010, 11:35:26 pm »
Hi, Bigfish, welcome to PA. I asked a similar question only a week ago. Here is the thread.

 http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,21195.0.html

 It should get you started in the right direction. It's the "Ishi" bow. If you do a search for it on oogle you should find references to Ishi's favorite hunting bow.

If that doesn't help, send a message to blacktail and he can direct you further (he's the man on the cover).

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Re: bow on cover of sept issue
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2010, 11:40:46 pm »
 That bow was made by John, "Blacktail", on this site. It is a NW Pacific Coast type bow. Maybe John or some of the other guy's on here that have built some museum quality examples will weigh in.





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Offline bigfish

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Re: bow on cover of sept issue
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2010, 12:12:22 am »
much thanks guy i will have to get with him for length and width of the bow as i am looking to do one laminated with bamboo and bamboo backed

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Re: bow on cover of sept issue
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2010, 12:14:21 am »
hey bigfish,i don't if you have the tbb 4..if you do its on page 287 bow A...its one of ishi's bows...i didn't do to the T..but,it was close...i had a discussion with prof about it...maybe he saved the topic and could send it to you...i deleted mine..if not i could do it again...john

Offline profsaffel

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Re: bow on cover of sept issue
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2010, 11:18:52 pm »
Yeah, John, I'll forward the specs you gave me. Good idea.

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Offline sailordad

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Re: bow on cover of sept issue
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2010, 11:37:00 pm »
hows this,very similar to Ishis bow
i believe he has actually from the Yahi
this is a Yana indian bow.i was told by the museum curator it was a bow from a "relative" tribe of his.





i also have pics of arrows made by Ishi when he was at U of C

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Offline profsaffel

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Re: bow on cover of sept issue
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2010, 12:04:28 am »
That's a cool bow in its on right sailordad, but that's a very different design than the one John has. Interesting...
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Offline sailordad

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Re: bow on cover of sept issue
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2010, 12:21:55 am »
John did say he didnt follow it to a "t"
i would bet this is closer to Ishis bow
like i said it is a Yana bow,which was a reltive tribe(just a differant clan of the same tribe) of tha Yahi(from what i was told by the curator)
either way its old and sweet
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Re: bow on cover of sept issue
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2010, 12:28:46 am »
Here's a site I found that might help...

http://www.thebicyclingguitarist.net/ishi/bow.htm
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Offline sailordad

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Re: bow on cover of sept issue
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2010, 04:13:28 pm »
profsaffel, yup thats almost identical to the bow i posted the pic of
i believe its gaines some reflex since it was made due to the layers(s) of sinew

very cool artical,thanks for posting it
i always wanted a harley,untill it became the "thing to ride"
i ride because i love to,not to be part of the crowd