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Offline Et_tu_brute

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Hackberry Bow - Inspiration Needed
« on: June 11, 2010, 05:58:27 pm »
Hi All,

Well I've got a lovely stave of Hackberry sitting here which I've now gotten round to setting to work on, and I fancy doing something a bit different to what I have in the past. First of all the stave, pipe straight, no twist, 72" long and 2" wide. I'll be going for a draw-weight of around 60#@30".

I want to recurve the bow, but along with this I was also thinking of steaming the stave and putting in 3 or 4" of reflex and perhaps heat treating the belly. With regard to putting in the reflex would steaming be OK to do or would dry heat be more advisable? As I understand it Hackberry steams well.

Any suggestions/opinions appreciated :)

Offline Michael C.

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Re: Hackberry Bow - Inspiration Needed
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2010, 06:06:27 pm »
Yeah that's what I have heard (steam) also, there are a bunch of these trees around here and I keep meaning to try one out. From what I have read though it's really similar to elm in most of it's properties, I think there was a PA issue with this wood in it a ways back.
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Offline JW_Halverson

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Re: Hackberry Bow - Inspiration Needed
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2010, 12:18:07 am »
I love working with hackberry, even more then osage (I can hear all the people crying "HERETIC" already).

If the wood is a little bit damp, go ahead and steam away.  If it has had plenty of time to cure out, try the dry heat.  With your 30" draw length, I would recommend going a little over the usual double the draw length plus 10%.   That would give you a 66 inch bow (30 + 30 + 6).  Go to 69", that gives you another 15% over the double your draw length.  I bet if you get this thing tillered carefully and the m,oisture content down below 8% you will get virtually no string follow. 

If you are using a draw knife or spokeshave on the belly, make sure it is razor sharp.  Then sharpen it better.  Once it is better than razor sharp, take it to a professional and get it sharp enough to etch your initials in glass.  Hackberry can have some mean hidden grain reversal.  A dull tool will cause tear-outs that a really sharp tool can sometimes avoid. 

Hackberry doesn't take stain really well for me, but the wood looks great with just an oil finish rubbed in.  I back mine with rawhide that I have pre-died or stained.  The dark rawhide really sets off the creamy pale yellow color of the wood.    Take lotsa pictures and post often.
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Offline sulphur

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Re: Hackberry Bow - Inspiration Needed
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2010, 02:20:23 pm »
is this inspiration enough?  64"  52# @ 28".   don't know about the 30" draw you got.  maybe make it a smidge longer.




Offline JW_Halverson

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Re: Hackberry Bow - Inspiration Needed
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2010, 09:31:32 pm »
Oh, dat's fine
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Re: Hackberry Bow - Inspiration Needed
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2010, 11:18:33 am »
I like Hackberry also,haven't made one in a while but it is fine bow wood.Very light in the hand.Just has been said,keep it dry. If the picture of Sulphur bow don't inspire you nothing will,great looking bow.
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Offline Et_tu_brute

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Re: Hackberry Bow - Inspiration Needed
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2010, 12:13:12 pm »
Sulphur, that's definitely inspiration enough  ;D Stunning bow there, very similar to what I had in mind (may go for a bendy handle), as you say I'll make mine a little longer to handle the 30" drawlength. Thanks very much for the advice everyone, I'll be getting started on this one later on this week, so I'll post photos as I do so :)

Offline George Tsoukalas

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Re: Hackberry Bow - Inspiration Needed
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2010, 12:44:09 pm »
Sulphur:"is this inspiration enough?"
Yup.
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Offline woodsrunner

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Re: Hackberry Bow - Inspiration Needed
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2010, 06:13:04 pm »
Sulphur, How wide did you make the limbs? Thats inspiration alright now I got to make one. Living in Kansas hackberry is abundant so here goes.

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Offline sulphur

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Re: Hackberry Bow - Inspiration Needed
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2010, 06:25:54 pm »
woods the limbs are 2" then start tapering about 8" out to .5 tips.  I always go wide with hackberry as its not even as dense as ash.  However i think rangerb has had great success with narrower designs.  its a remarkable wood given its specs versus denser woods.  the best part is the bark that just falls off and then theres your back.  Just love it.