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Offline makenzie71

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Not sinew backing...but...
« on: May 12, 2010, 01:55:52 pm »
what?  I've got some back sinew coming in that I can use for one project...but considering the amount I need for that project, I don't want to use it on my piddly time-wasters. I like bamboo backings and I'm int he middle of a horsebow that's boo-backed and working on decently, but next I want to make one a bit more aggressive.  My brother showed me a bit of info on hornbows sans the horn...bamboo was used instead.  It's intriguing and I want to make one...but then I'm back to not wanting to waste my sinew on piddly projects when I have a REAL Turkish bow to make.

I was curious what would be thought of trying to get the same general look with bamboo on both sides?  My mind has48" 1/8" strips back and (tempered) belly with a 1/8" ash or maple core, with 10" sayahs at 35~40*.  Little to no induced reflex.  I'm wanting 45~50lbs at 28".

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Re: Not sinew backing...but...
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2010, 02:01:27 pm »
I've seen several bows made like that before. They are supposed to perform better than sinew and horn styles at normal weights because the tempered boo is so much lighter than sinew and horn.

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Re: Not sinew backing...but...
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2010, 02:04:21 pm »
That's nice to know.

I'm also curious about how crucial proper grain is when the back and belly are bamboo?  I can get some edge-grained hickory, but I have no easy options for 1/8" slats with good grain.
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Re: Not sinew backing...but...
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2010, 04:41:26 pm »
If both back and belly are going to be Tapered Bamboo....the Grain Orientation should have little effect on the Bow.....JMO
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Re: Not sinew backing...but...
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2010, 05:25:02 pm »
If both back and belly are going to be Tapered Bamboo....the Grain Orientation should have little effect on the Bow.....JMO

Especially if the wood is hickory.

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Re: Not sinew backing...but...
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2010, 05:44:09 pm »
Do you guys think edge-grain hickory would be suitable for this project?
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Re: Not sinew backing...but...
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2010, 05:44:34 pm »
What about boo belly, wood core and sinew back? Hornbow style, but replacing the horn with bamboo? I made one and it worked well.
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Re: Not sinew backing...but...
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2010, 05:46:40 pm »
...but then I'm back to not wanting to waste my sinew on piddly projects when I have a REAL Turkish bow to make.

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Re: Not sinew backing...but...
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2010, 05:49:10 pm »
I can certainly see nothing wrong with either setup....and edged grain is as strong as you will get....as long as there is no abundance of runoff.....James Parksler is The Man....when it comes to these Bows....JMO
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Re: Not sinew backing...but...
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2010, 05:55:09 pm »
I just emailed hiim.
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Re: Not sinew backing...but...
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2010, 07:22:03 pm »
thats not a piddly project and wouldn't you have to be a Turk in Turkey to make a REAL Turkish hornbow? ;D Actually I missread your post ???
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Re: Not sinew backing...but...
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2010, 07:24:10 pm »
It's a cheaper, less time consuming project than my Turk bow :)  I'm going to have some good money and a lot of time invested in it.
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Re: Not sinew backing...but...
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2010, 03:21:24 am »
for a single core of hickory ,i would go for 5/16 + or -  a little,,that is at the center of the core,tapering to 1/8 at the tips.. make the boo  1/8 to 3/16 throughout their length,,keep the bow around 1 1/4 at the widest  off the fades to keep string follow and set down... a light to medium temper on the belly will do ,,over temper the belly and the # can triple,,if it does- scrape the belly to lower # and tiller..post pics of what you have already built and building ......good luck... :) james

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Re: Not sinew backing...but...
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2010, 01:35:36 pm »
That sounds like it will be a strong bow with the core that thick?
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Re: Not sinew backing...but...
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2010, 01:52:49 pm »
I think much the same...but I've not used hickory for much.  Like I said, I'm really wanting to keep the draw kind of low...55lbs tops.  A stronger bow I would end up just selling and I'd like to make a bow for me for once lol.
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