Eddy, I have a small one that I carry sometimes, probably more for decoration than any thing else, I made a very nice handle out of hickory for it and did a little carving on it also, but I got it from John about 10 to 12 years ago. but I need one to throw at those big hunks of logs, not the small ones , like 10 ft diameter . I talk with John at least once a month, so I'll call him and ask if he is still comming to the Classic. I think because of his finances he probably need to sell some of his bows and etc. I wish that he could come to these different shoots around the country, he has so much talent ,that most of us just stand amazed what he can do with so little. Chris , the one in Ryan's post that made him a knife and spike hawk also made me two mountain folding knifes that I wouldn't trade or sell . he also made a quiver out of birchbark that I will bring to the shoots that you will droll over, I did. I started out in my adult life as a journeyman tool and die maker and automotive engineer, I know how to design and build stuff, but would trade that in a minute for the talent that I've seen in my travels to these wonderful shoots. Cha-Ching