@all: thank you
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Elder, is that like an Alder? Thought they were basically weeds, but you showed me something Acker. Nice bow.
No, Elder is Elder .
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There are two different sorts of Elder . Black Elder (sambucus nigra) is what you want for bow building, the other one, Red Elder isn´t very good for bows.
But they do look the very same in the winter time, but it is very easy to seperate them from each other.
( click on the pictures)
Here are two limbs , red elder and black elder can you see the differents ? No?
![](http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/thumbnail/holler003j9h2rq63_thumb.jpg)
Just break a little limb and have a look inside.
The black Elder has a white medullary canal , the canal from red Elder is, guess what? red
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![](http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/thumbnail/holler007a1ylswfb_thumb.jpg)
Thats Elder :
![](http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/thumbnail/holler008yw4ni9a0_thumb.jpg)
![](http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/thumbnail/holler00913j457ea_thumb.jpg)
Hope that helps you searching for the right tree.
Here are two other Elder bows I´ve build,
My son´s bow:
![](http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/thumbnail/alexbogenneu013743yhlbo_thumb.jpg)
![](http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/thumbnail/alexbogenneu0187zvsda5u_thumb.jpg)
![](http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/thumbnail/alexbogenneu008mvy3h2ux_thumb.jpg)
One of mine
You alway´s have them big knots
![](http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/thumbnail/holler162leinl029eho1dz6l_thumb.jpg)
![](http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/thumbnail/holler162leinl021ladf2sov_thumb.jpg)
![](http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/thumbnail/hollerpics2006leotrxkn_thumb.jpg)
The one on the right is ELder
![](http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/thumbnail/saplingalle30032x3pwmq8_thumb.jpg)
here on the left
![](http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/thumbnail/saplingalle3016b2gfp9kd_thumb.jpg)
![](http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/thumbnail/saplingalle30210foqugwv_thumb.jpg)
![](http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/thumbnail/saplingalle3035xhp2koiw_thumb.jpg)
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