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Offline Jesse

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A failed attempt -- update
« on: February 05, 2010, 07:28:27 pm »
Well I started with a pre tapered core and glued on a backing no handle riser. It was going to be a simpe longbow with reflex. I put the glue on and got it all wrapped in plastic and then rubber straps.  I had blue tape on both back and belly to prevent extra glu from getting on the bow. Normally I only put tape on the back. Well Anyway I put it in the form and came back in the morning. took it out and realized I lost track of which side was up with the blue tape on both sides and did about the dumbest thing I could have done. >:( I put it in the form backwards and I had glued in deflex instead of reflex ::) ;D Ok so that sucked but I wanted to fix it so I tempered some bamboo and glued it on the belly and forced it back into a reflex shape. When I took it out of the form it was dead straight with maybe just a touch of deflex :( not exactly what I wanted but oh well I cut out the taper, strung it up, and pulled it to 27" It didnt look too bad. A few stiff spots but not bad right off the bat. I unstrung it too work the sides a bit and got disappointed again :( All the deflex was back ??? Must have not let the glue cure good enough or something. Oh well. This one is now in the pile with a few others that didnt quite work out. Cool trying the bamboo belly though. I didnt bother to correct the tiller.  Here it is pulling 70# @ 27"   
« Last Edit: February 07, 2010, 05:33:19 pm by Jesse-S »
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Offline Cromm

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Re: A failed attempt
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2010, 07:50:55 pm »
For a bad one it looked like a goodie!!!
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Re: A failed attempt
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2010, 07:54:38 pm »
Here it is after rest. Not horrible but Im not likely to use this bow :)  about 2 1/4" deflexed and it kicks like a mule ;D Im sure that could be fixed with some lightening of the tips but Im just gonna take this one as another lesson learned and move on. :)
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Re: A failed attempt
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2010, 07:54:53 pm »
Come on Jesse lets see more pics like braced, unbraced and the one where ya smacked yerself upside the head when ya realized what ya had done >:D
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Re: A failed attempt
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2010, 07:58:18 pm »
The ipe core was from David and I didnt do one bit of tillering on it.
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Re: A failed attempt
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2010, 08:00:14 pm »
Come on Jesse lets see more pics like braced, unbraced and the one where ya smacked yerself upside the head when ya realized what ya had done >:D
  :D :D :D It took me a second once I realized but then I just looked at it and laughed :D
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Re: A failed attempt
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2010, 09:20:37 pm »
 :D :D I'm not laughing at ya Jesse... I'm laughing with ya. That had to suck!
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Re: A failed attempt
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2010, 11:38:20 pm »
Jesse, If you use TB3 it really needs a few days for the glue to dry out,cure since it puts a lot of moisture into the wood, and its easy for it to take a bad set when pushed before its ready..

Also if you used TB3 you can heat it up and slip off the backing if you with with a knife and re-glue it..

If you used epoxy/Urac then just make the tips smaller,  and use heavier arrows..But I don't think it should beat your shoulder all that much if it gets tuned right..

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Re: A failed attempt
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2010, 11:47:00 pm »
Jesse, While making a selfbow recurve once I bent each limb tip in different directions.  ::)  We all have those days when we have other things on our minds and probably shouldn't be working on bows.  ;)   What glue did you use?
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Re: A failed attempt
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2010, 12:18:56 am »
Jesse
I'm thinking of a couple of funny Polish bow making jokes.

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Re: A failed attempt
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2010, 12:29:11 am »
Jesse, While making a selfbow recurve once I bent each limb tip in different directions.  ::)  We all have those days when we have other things on our minds and probably shouldn't be working on bows.  ;)   What glue did you use?
:D :D thats awesome Pat I love it :D      yeah this bow fought me in more ways than one.            
           I used smooth on epoxy. "messy stuff"
Rich   The bamboo on the belly is a piece I got from you quite a while ago.    Im not really interested in saving the bow at this point. I can make another easy enough that I like better. :) Im not sure I would intentionally make a bow with an ipe core and a boo belly.  I think the ipe might be better suited for the belly. I would however really like to try a boo back and belly with a lighter core like maple or cherry. Sounds like a good idea to me but I dont know.
Jesse
I'm thinking of a couple of funny Polish bow making jokes.

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Let em rip. I got it coming  :D
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Re: A failed attempt
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2010, 01:01:55 am »
well since you are scrapping it anyways... why not try to make it a bamboo backed bow instead of a bow with a bamboo belly?  String it backwards and see if it holds together... Might as well...   :)  -josh
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Re: A failed attempt
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2010, 08:19:16 am »
Josh its bamboo back and belly I do believe ;)
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Re: A failed attempt
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2010, 09:58:30 am »
well since you are scrapping it anyways... why not try to make it a bamboo backed bow instead of a bow with a bamboo belly?  String it backwards and see if it holds together... Might as well...   :)  -josh

Exactly what I was thinking.......string that sucker the other direction and you got reflex !  :o
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Re: A failed attempt
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2010, 10:59:41 am »
Sometimes you just gotta laugh. I remember Milo posted pics of a nice static recurve once with the tips bent in opposite directions like Pat said. I'd try stringing it backward, too. Or kerf the tips and recurve them.
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