heres 13 more that i just finished. well, kinda finished, no points yet. im so happy with this bamboo, i dont think i will go back to anything else. tough stuff too. i actually made 14 of them, but one was too short, it was cut off at right about a node. so i wrapped it with some artificial sinew and wanted to see what would happen. i had a wooden pad that was made out of 2x6's i stood way back, and drew my new bow back to 27 of a 28 inch 40lb draw weight and let fly. shot it 5 times, and other than a little mashing, no other damage, no splits or nothing, im impressed.