Thanks fellas,
Dave: At my age them money shots ain't gonna happen, thats just too ugly to even contemplate
Lombard: I used to carve at the world-class level (realistic wildlife) but not for the last 10 years because of the injuries, so this low relief is about my only option due to the physical limitations. An example is burning in the barblettes of feathers I used to be capable of about 95-100 lines per inch and now I'm lucky to do 20 and those aren't real good)
T Bod: I think that working the backs and or bellies of this oak is cause it's vertical grained, I have trouble with the edges of the limbs cause that's horizontal grained. Most all of my tools are Cutting Edge types (scrapers etc.) and the vertical grain cuts more even than the horizontal and gives less problems with the tools digging in, or lifting slivers......thats just how it seems to me.
Pappy, Thank you, means a lot coming from you.
half eye