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Offline jturner

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titebond and sinew
« on: December 20, 2009, 12:47:54 am »
Im sure this has been asked before but can i use titebond with sinew? Not worried bout adding any reflex with the sinew as i will put 3 inches in it on a form before tillering. The sinew is just for insurance. Should i put the sinew on before tillering or part way through? Will titebond be quicker than hide glue?
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Offline makenzie71

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Re: titebond and sinew
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2009, 01:21:49 am »
Yeah. I use titebond and gorilla glue with sinew and rawhide a lot on other things...most people here suggest titebond III beacause it's more resilient, but both III and the original have worked for me.
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Offline shikari

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Re: titebond and sinew
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2009, 01:27:08 am »
waste of materials,i would never use titebond with sinew, Sinew needs to be glued with hide glue to give it the reflex that sinew is used forif all you want is a good backing use any damn thing.
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Offline jturner

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Re: titebond and sinew
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2009, 01:46:33 am »
Thanks guys i just dont like the thin rings in this stave and figured it would be a better backing than rawhide am i wrong in my thinking? Its not for me and i just want something to make good and sure it is sound. And i figured since i was inucing reflex with heat i was only thinking in terms of not lifting a splinter not holding reflex.
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Offline rileyconcrete

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Re: titebond and sinew
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2009, 02:14:58 am »
knox gellatin works great. You can get it at grocery stores.  Sinew is great and is very strong. The only thing is it wont be waterproof.
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Offline makenzie71

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Re: titebond and sinew
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2009, 02:25:50 am »
Quote from: jturner on December 20, 2009, 01:46:33 am
Thanks guys i just dont like the thin rings in this stave and figured it would be a better backing than rawhide am i wrong in my thinking? Its not for me and i just want something to make good and sure it is sound. And i figured since i was inucing reflex with heat i was only thinking in terms of not lifting a splinter not holding reflex.

Lots of people like sinew...I don't like sinew for backing.  If you're wanting it to be strong and bulletproof, put bamboo on it.  You can get some great, ready to work stuff from kinightd and he's an awesome guy to deal with.
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Offline Bowmonk

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Re: titebond and sinew
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2009, 03:33:56 am »
If the rings are just thin and you feel you need the extra backing, as was mentioned rawhide or linen can be applied with not much further prep to the back.

If you want added performance, go for the bamboo backing or the sinew backing... but don't fool yourself to think you can waste your time with anything besides hide glue or knox gelatin to glue it on. This does take more preparation to the back though to accomplish. And yes, Dave Knight sells excellent bamboo backing strips.
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Offline jturner

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Re: titebond and sinew
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2009, 09:10:55 am »
Bamboo isnt an option it has too many curves. Probally just go with rawhide. Should i put it on after i reflex it or after tillering some?
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Offline DanaM

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Re: titebond and sinew
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2009, 09:27:04 am »
Rawhide will make a great backing, use TB 3 and apply after any and all heat corrections have been made, good luck eh :)
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Offline sulphur

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Re: titebond and sinew
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2009, 10:25:49 am »
Jturner, i asked the same question you did.  turned into quite a thread.  I ended up using hide glue.  not because i wanted reflex but because i wanted the sinew to adhere well.  you can put any good finish on top of it to waterproof.  trust me go with the hide glue.
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Offline Bullitt

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Re: titebond and sinew
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2009, 04:54:55 pm »
Rawhide will work fine with alot less time. Something as simple as drywall mesh tape, even brown paper grocery bag will help.

Nothing wrong with a single layer of sinew, either, for protection. Alot of options, and things to learn.

Have fun, and let us know what you did!
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Offline makenzie71

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Re: titebond and sinew
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2009, 04:59:25 pm »
Quote from: jturner on December 20, 2009, 09:10:55 am
Bamboo isnt an option it has too many curves. Probally just go with rawhide. Should i put it on after i reflex it or after tillering some?

You can put bamboo on anything "flat".  No such thing as too many "curves".  Not to pressure you or anything, you just shouldn't feel limited.


...edited; I forgot "flat".
« Last Edit: December 20, 2009, 05:22:14 pm by makenzie71 »
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Offline Dave 55

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Re: titebond and sinew
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2009, 05:16:01 pm »
Somebody needs to tell Ed Scot because hes wasting his time.
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Re: titebond and sinew
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2009, 07:30:38 pm »
Quote from: makenzie71 on December 20, 2009, 04:59:25 pm

You can put bamboo on anything "flat".  No such thing as too many "curves".  Not to pressure you or anything, you just shouldn't feel limited.
...edited; I forgot "flat".

Oh Yeah....you try to put Bamboo on these Curvy Bows then......... :o

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Offline jturner

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Re: titebond and sinew
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2009, 07:33:33 pm »
Im goin with rawhide just cause of time limit to have this done that is why i was wonderin bout the titebond. If i could post pics id show you it is a snakey osage it has thick rings on one end and very thin at the other end. Its on one ring but i dont want it to lift a splinter. The only camera i have is on my phone so i can email pics but cant post them on here
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