Thanks medicinewheel, The bow I am drawing is hickory ,elk hide backed and beavertail handle. Its draw is 68 inches, 58lbs at 28" draw. I just made an ash bow yesterday for a fellow. We traded a huge bear carving ,he did for it.I have found hickory is getting compression cracks on some of my elbs. They are small,however they are unsightly I make this note, as i haven't had the same with ash. Croom said he uses ash, so I tried one and it stained really beautiful and no cracks. Denny