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Offline HoBow

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Re: Tallahatta Sandstone and Tallahatta Chert
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2009, 11:27:45 pm »
Well, this is the results of my rock run.  I found some huge boulders and could not spall it out with the stone I brought and did not want to start beating on it with a steel slag hammer, so ended up picking up pieces around the 5 or 6 small car size boulders.  Is this about the size you guys start out with or should they be bigger?  The stone I used is in the bottom right corner of the first picture.  It was not much good on this rock.  The coke can is for size reference.  I plan on going again next Tuesday and try to get more, but hope to be better prepared to break the boulder up a little- any advice appreciated.  :) 

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Re: Tallahatta Sandstone and Tallahatta Chert
« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2009, 12:57:45 am »
Those chunks and spalls are about the correct size to make medium sized to large points with no problems.  I think that you should work on forming them into preforms  before you start trying to beat the rock into a point.  You will gain experiance in getting flakes to release in the direction and shape you want.  If you have any questions, PM me.  I will be checking this site.  If you want to knapp some more, I will be at Moundville Park on Sat. from 1100 to 1400.  Bill

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Re: Tallahatta Sandstone and Tallahatta Chert
« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2009, 06:01:09 am »
Thanks Bill!  I enjoyed meeting you the other day and appreciate the help in learning the basics. My plan was to practice percussion with most of the rock I find. I wasn't real concerned about knocking out points just yet. Thanks again for all the help and material!!
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Re: Tallahatta Sandstone and Tallahatta Chert
« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2009, 08:45:30 am »
they look great to me i wish i was there. have fun knapping and show us some pics of the things you make.
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Re: Tallahatta Sandstone and Tallahatta Chert
« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2009, 10:05:10 pm »
Good job, Jeff!
It would be great to see some pics of the rock in the ground, or in the setting you are
finding it, if at all possible. I don't know for sure what you are looking at as far as collecting
possibilities goes, but my favorite tools for collecting that coastal plains chert is a 16# sledge
and a 6 foot pry bar. ;)
Wear goggles, and any on-lookers should stand back atleast 15-20 feet, also with goggles.
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Re: Tallahatta Sandstone and Tallahatta Chert
« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2009, 10:23:45 pm »
Well, today was an interesting day in my journey to learn knapping!  I decided to go get some more rock and grab some photos so I could get some advice.  While loading up some, one slipped and cut my left finger open.  I decided to go ahead and finish getting what I came for :o  I left and went and got three stitches in my left pointer finger  >:(  I went home to unload the rock and the same thing happened, so I had to go back and get four stitches in my right palm  >:( The doctors got a kick out of the whole situation and my wife took my rocks away  :-\  Maybe knapping is not for everyone  ;D  ???

Here are pictures from both ER visits (within 2 hours of each other) and some of the big boulders.  There is at least 10 back in this area and only a few have been whacked on....

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Re: Tallahatta Sandstone and Tallahatta Chert
« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2009, 12:24:04 am »
It might be safer and cheaper to wear gloves.  ;D Nice find and hope they heal quickly
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Re: Tallahatta Sandstone and Tallahatta Chert
« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2009, 09:36:53 am »
Yep, you might want to add Gloves to that list of tools. ;)
But, when your hands heal up, you know where to get plenty of material!
Thanks for the pics.
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Re: Tallahatta Sandstone and Tallahatta Chert
« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2009, 02:38:13 pm »
At least you found a gold mine of material to use i have to buy most of what i need
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Re: Tallahatta Sandstone and Tallahatta Chert
« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2009, 07:35:52 pm »
i woulda lost half of my little finger on my last rock run if i had not had gloves on.. i was spalling a big piece of flint river and i missed the platform and my finger slid across a sharp edge of rock with the weight of large copper spaller and it sliced through the glove and still cut me..
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Re: Tallahatta Sandstone and Tallahatta Chert
« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2009, 07:48:19 pm »
I never have liked gloves with the exception of hauling hay, but looks like I will have ro adjust  :)
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Re: Tallahatta Sandstone and Tallahatta Chert
« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2009, 09:26:44 pm »
Are the stitches out yet?  When they are, call me and we'll try to set up another session.  We should try to get together before it get too cold.  Bill

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Re: Tallahatta Sandstone and Tallahatta Chert
« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2009, 09:44:47 pm »
 When it gets too cold, send that rock on a vacation,, to me. ;D  Cool battle scars ;)
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Re: Tallahatta Sandstone and Tallahatta Chert
« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2009, 10:23:14 pm »
Bill- I will be up there next week again for work, so I will give you a call.  I've taken the stitches out of my left hand because they were hurting.  I was suppose to get them out tomorrow, but I have some stuff to do this weekend, so I'm going to leave the ones in my right hand in until Sunday.  I should be good to go next week.   ;D  ;D Mullet-  I'll send some down your way.  Shoot me a PM with what you are interested in.

I got some dogwood logs today that were seasoned.  Would these be good to try and spall out the boulders?  Do they need to be smooth or could I shape it out with my drawknife and call it quits? Any rough dimensions or pics would be greatly appreciated!!
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Re: Tallahatta Sandstone and Tallahatta Chert
« Reply #29 on: November 12, 2009, 11:53:48 pm »
Sheese man, what a find! That is too cool! Sorry about the stiches but looks like your hooked ;).
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