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Offline billy

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Just got back from the Smithsonian....
« on: August 17, 2009, 12:47:52 am »
Hi everyone.  I just got back this evening after driving up to the Smithsonian to do the research and take photos of the bows, arrows and quivers that will be published in Primitive Archer. WOW... you guys are gonna be in for a real treat.  I got to see some really, REALLY cool stuff, and I'm absolutely jazzed that I'll be able to share these with all of you. 

Of course, some of the bows I saw were kinda crude.  I saw one Paiute bow that was rather ugly...but even then it was really cool to see and examine. 

I do have some really cool pics of an entire Comanche set (bow, arrows and quiver).  This set was collected in 1868!!!!

And the northern California bows are gonna blow you away....I have photos of one that is so reflexed that you won't believe it! 

I'm not gonna give anything more away....that's for ya'll to see in the articles.  But let's just say this is gonna be a fascinating series of articles for all of you to share, learn from, and enjoy.  I can't wait to get these done and sent in to PA...... this is gonna be AWESOME!!!!
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Offline Pat B

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Re: Just got back from the Smithsonian....
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2009, 01:16:39 am »
My wife asked me this evening about the guy going to the Smithsonian to research bows and arrows. Billy, I can't wait to read your series of articles and drool over the pics.
  Did you get any ideas for bows or other  implements?  Come on, just a tease! ;D
   Your excitement makes me excited. ;)
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Re: Just got back from the Smithsonian....
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2009, 01:36:46 am »
Hey PAt,

I'm so glad you're excited...because I am!! 

I didn't really get any ideas for other bows though.  I like my longbows because they fit me.  However, the one thing that continually surprises me is the relatively small size of the weapons that I've seen.  The longest bow I saw was a Cherokee bow (62 inches), but even then the arrows were not nearly as thick in diameter as the cane arrows I make.  In general, the indian weapons tend to be much smaller, sleeker, and more elegant than the big, beefy bows and large, heavy arrows that we shoot today.  Maybe that's because we are taller than indians.  But whatever the reason, it is fascinating to examine and handle weapons that were made by people who actually based their survival on them. 

Some of the bows were crude...but some of them were so incredibly well made that you aren't gonna believe it.  Those indians were able to do things with wood that you wouldn't believe.....just wait till you see the pics of the super-reflexed Hupa bow! 


     
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Re: Just got back from the Smithsonian....
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2009, 02:57:56 am »
Interesting observations Billy.I have found the same thing in my examinations of antique weapons,especially of  the arrows.Some original Maidu arrows i looked at were very small compared to what people use today.about 32" long but only about 1/4" diameter.

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« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2009, 03:11:17 am »
I also look foreward to the article and the questions leading to subsequent discusions that will follow.I think it will challenge the stigmas associated with not only early native archery,but the way we look at modern archery as well.

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Re: Just got back from the Smithsonian....
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2009, 07:08:18 am »
Can't wait to see your article's,this will be great.Thanks. :)
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Offline nugget

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Re: Just got back from the Smithsonian....
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2009, 07:25:03 am »
I am so excited
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« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2009, 08:45:32 am »
WoW I cannot wait to see what you have to write and the photo's of the items!!!
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Offline George Tsoukalas

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Re: Just got back from the Smithsonian....
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2009, 09:29:26 am »
Great, Billy! Thanks for sharing all of that with us. I can't wait for the articles. Jawge
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Re: Just got back from the Smithsonian....
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2009, 10:22:06 am »
Can't wait to seeeeeeeeee

Offline bigcountry

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Re: Just got back from the Smithsonian....
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2009, 11:31:56 am »
I recently went to the Native american Smithsonian in DC and was disappointed there wasn't more archery gear.
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Re: Just got back from the Smithsonian....
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2009, 12:15:30 pm »
Can't wait!

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Re: Just got back from the Smithsonian....
« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2009, 01:11:57 pm »
Billy, from the teasing session you've given us so far...I'm really looking forward to the articles! Sounds like it will trully be a learning experience, and maybe will re-open some doors from the past when considering potential bow designs. Thanks in advance for the articles! :)
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Offline Jesse

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Re: Just got back from the Smithsonian....
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2009, 09:33:04 pm »
Now I'm even excited :o
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Re: Just got back from the Smithsonian....
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2009, 12:11:09 am »
Billy-what issue are these pics going to be in?thanks,Marty