ok, sorry it took so long- bow works fine, i made it a little 17 pounder for my neighbor's grandson's birthday (he has taken the seventh lion in recorded history) i gave it to him, and i have pics, but the camera i took them on is really high quality, i'll retake them on a less mb camera- thanks for the patience, and i think you were right pat b, i did make it out of a board, but ive seen other osage bows with similar creaks. again, thanks for the patience, i can get pics tomarrow. -jimmy