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Offline venisonburger

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Re: Two New Laminated Bows begun
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2009, 02:07:01 pm »
Have you used the plastic resin before, how well does it work? I have been looking for it lately and none of the stores around here have it, I have to buy it online.  After some research it should be the equivilent of URAC 185. The only difference would be the powder that comes with the URAC  which I have left over from the expired URAC I have. I believe the powder is ground walnut shells?
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Re: Two New Laminated Bows begun
« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2009, 08:28:30 pm »
I've never built a bow with it but have build a number of small boats......with well fitted joints it lasts forever.  Really, boiling water proof, and hard enough to turn the edge on steel tools.  piper

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Re: Two New Laminated Bows begun
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2009, 09:28:21 pm »
I had the day off today, so after the usual honey-do list I swung by the shop and grabbed that O/O/H blank.   Based on the suggestion of an active contributer, highly experienced bowyer here, who's name will go un-written, i stood by the big belt sander for a while and got that bow going.   I rand it through the planer and brought it to 1 1/8" wide, and then sanded it to a flat back/rounded belly configuration.  After a while it started bending like a bow and not a length of galvanized pipe.  Now, it is still pretty stiff, much stiffer than anything else i have ever made.  I don't have a tillering tree but use just a tiller stick to check as I go, and when i could get it to bend at all with a long string I started looking, bending and scraping.   the Osage scrapes really well, long wiggly shavings with the thin scraper. 

No pics at this point.  Just a couple of chores left and I'll try to get some later tonight. 

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Re: Two New Laminated Bows begun
« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2009, 02:49:23 am »
Sandpiper, thanks for the tip about woodweld.  I have a sassafrass board that I could chase a ring on, but it would be a bit thin for a bow.  I'm planning to back it with a piece of hickory left from a stave.  I was needing a glue.  Sounds like Woodweld will do the trick.  But I think I'll try taping the side of the lam piece to catch the glue run off.  And, I'll make it a bit wider than need to any glue drops out.  Of course I'll keep the BS (beltsander) on standby.  Thanks for tips.
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Re: Two New Laminated Bows begun
« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2009, 10:27:09 pm »
The dreaded "ticking noise"......i got the O/O/H pretty much shaped and mostly tillered.  Not pulling as far as I'd like, but I'm not as strong as some of the youngsters like Recurve Shooter and Ian-Johnson so that doesn't bother me much, as one of them can pull it when they come in.  But, i had it back about 22 or 23 inches and there was the dreaded "tick"....and a small sliver of the hickory backing had lifted off.   Dang.   So , i epoxied it and clamped it down.   Later on I JUST COULDN'T RESIST and i stained and oiled the bow. 

If the backing continues to make trouble, i guess i can power sand it off, right down to the osage and blue on another backing.   Any of you all ever done that?  It LOOKS possible.  May be a way to save an otherwise good bow. 

Pics tomorrow as time allows. 

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Re: Two New Laminated Bows begun
« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2009, 11:39:50 pm »
 ;D these should be awsome. im going to feel terible if it breaks when i draw the thing.  :'(
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Re: Two New Laminated Bows begun
« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2009, 12:14:03 am »
Keith...what kind of Grain Cut do you have on that Hickory Backing? Biased....Edge....??? You shouldnt be having so much trouble with Backings
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Re: Two New Laminated Bows begun
« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2009, 07:31:39 am »
El D."  a splinter picked up off one edge, tapering from a point to approx 1/4" and about 1 1/4" long.  It separated at the glue line, which surprised me, I figured it was good.  The joint was machined dead flat, was fresh and clean.  So, i might have over clamped and squeezed all the glue out.  I'm never known for having the perfect stick of wood to build a bow, so whatever the grain orientation should have been, it probably isn't.  I'll take a look when i get in today.  It is standing in a corner at work. 

Trey, stop in whenever and give it a pull, slowley.  I have a face guard you can wear.  Let me get some pictures first.......it is a real pretty bow. I wonder if i have a full set of pics, and get one full-draw pic, and then it blows up if it still qualifies for BOM?   ???

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Re: Two New Laminated Bows begun
« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2009, 05:33:29 pm »
mr. kieth i get my drivers liscence tomorrow, i'll b there around 9 or 10 or so.  ;D
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Re: Two New Laminated Bows begun
« Reply #24 on: July 08, 2009, 06:15:37 pm »
LISTEN LOUISIANA!!!Read the previous post........watch out for a really tall young man, driving like a newbie through the streets of Hammond!!   Be prepared to slide over to the curb and let him pass.  Good luck everyone, safe travels!!
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Congrats Recurve......see you tomorrow. 

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Re: Two New Laminated Bows begun
« Reply #25 on: July 08, 2009, 11:11:10 pm »
 :D that was funny. im gunna b in grandpa's truck so i got to behave.
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Re: Two New Laminated Bows begun
« Reply #26 on: July 08, 2009, 11:53:08 pm »
I got the O/O/H pulling nicely to 23", then it stacks as if it turns to steel.  Man, i hate to pull it any further.  May just leave it a heavy-a$$ , short draw bow.   BTW, it is 60 1/2" overall, 1 1/8" wide.  piper

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Re: Two New Laminated Bows begun
« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2009, 11:28:42 am »
60" ntn and 1 1/8" wide stiff handled hickory, much draw weight at 26" is a lot of bow to ask, even w/ a backing.

Went to school in Hammond, La., SLU, back in the 80s.  Lee's drive in still there?  Got me pinnin' fer a hamburger poo boy.

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Re: Two New Laminated Bows begun
« Reply #28 on: July 09, 2009, 12:54:16 pm »
I'll probably end up scraping it to get a full draw, but IT'S SO PRETTY THE WAY IT IS.

Yup, Lee's is alive and well.  I eat breakfast there nearly every monday.   Still have great burgers......it is 1960 at Lee's!

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Re: Two New Laminated Bows begun
« Reply #29 on: July 09, 2009, 11:09:56 pm »
i ate there a while back. sorry i couldnt get in today, me and the fellas went bowfishin again.
lets just shoot it