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Offline JackCrafty

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Apache Arrows - Latest Project
« on: June 11, 2009, 03:26:31 pm »
Here's some pics of the latest set of Apache arrows I'm making for a friend of mine.  They are "working" reproductions...but they will only be used for display display and instructional purposes.

Materials:

Shafts:  phragmites reed
Foreshafts: Chinese privet
Feathers: domesticated duck
Wrapping: elk leg sinew
Glue: fish glue
Red Paint:  red ochre + shellac (button-lac)
Black Paint:  lamp black + shellac (button-lac)
Finish/Sealer: shellac (dewaxed blonde)
Arrowheads: obsidian, steel, and heat-treated Edwards chert
Arrowhead Glue:  1:2:1 Mix (by volume) beeswax + pine rosin + osage wood dust...and a little lamp black added for color.

Stone/obsidian arrowheads weigh in @ 20 to 22 grains each.  Steel arrowheads @ 40 grains each.
Stone arrowheads are made in the "desert side notch" tradition. Steel arrowheads are made similar to trade points found in West Texas & New Mexico.




















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Re: Apache Arrows - Latest Project
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2009, 04:46:28 pm »
Patrick those are some nice arrows, lot of hard work went into them. 8)

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Re: Apache Arrows - Latest Project
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2009, 05:24:24 pm »
I couldn't agree more Patrick - your doing some mighty fine work out there! Wish work didn't get in my way so much ;D.
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Re: Apache Arrows - Latest Project
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2009, 08:24:28 pm »
Thanks Tina....it's only hard work if I didn't enjoy it.  ;)

Paul, thanks. You workin' in Austin?
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Re: Apache Arrows - Latest Project
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2009, 08:41:36 pm »
Those are great looking arrows, Patrick. I really liked those guinea-fletched ones you had at Tennessee, too.
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Re: Apache Arrows - Latest Project
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2009, 08:47:43 pm »
Yep, on the north side for now. Gotta lot of work coming up here in the next few years - man, I love this part of TX :).
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« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2009, 09:08:15 pm »
Awesome arrows Pat, I love the one you gave me at Pappy's :)
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Re: Apache Arrows - Latest Project
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2009, 10:53:59 pm »
Patrick
You do some amazing work, those are some absolutely beautiful arrows.  You are a true artist.
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« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2009, 11:50:34 pm »
As always Patrick, incredible!!! 8)   
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« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2009, 05:57:10 am »
Great work!!!!
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« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2009, 08:07:57 am »
Beautiful arrows.well done. :) I love the one you gave me at the Classic,a piece of art in my mind. :)
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Re: Apache Arrows - Latest Project
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2009, 09:38:41 am »
awesome arrows! good coloring job.
how long is the steel point's part which is covered by the shaft? (i don't know if you will understand this).
do you have a picture of an unmounted steel point?

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Re: Apache Arrows - Latest Project
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2009, 11:15:48 am »
Great Job on those Apache arrows...they look spot-on just like the originals I've seen. 
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« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2009, 02:00:29 pm »
Thanks for the complements guys. :)

Thomas, I didn't measure them ...but the tangs on the steel arrowheads are about 3/8" long.  If you look at trade points found in the Southwest, you will see that some were small, diamond-shaped, and with short tangs.  Of course, there was a lot of variation in trade points and the NA's themselves made arrowheads from steel also.  There was a lot of variation not only between tribal groups but within the tribes and even within the same set of arrows.  There is no "standard" shape.

The sharpening of the trade points varied also.  Some were not sharpened at all, some were bevelled one one side of each edge, and some were bevelled on both sides of each edge.

Hope that wasn't too much info.
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Re: Apache Arrows - Latest Project
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2009, 04:08:00 pm »
Really Nice Arrows Patrick :).PK
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