my wife went ahead and posted these photos for me while i was at work (bless her heart)....but,what i wanted to do on this one was to show more of the notching...i did notching differantly....i used a copper notcher that was shaped like a screwdiver and a small antler billet and punched the notches in....for some this might be nothing new but for me it was and i had a blast learning it...and i think i can do deeper notching using a punch....thanks john