Big, I like the elliptical tiller. The stiffer tips make for a smoother draw with less stack. I forgot to mention that the bow has a bit of a natural reflex in the last 10 inches of each limb. Also, that upper limb has 2 small knots which I left stiff. Anyway, that's why I did what I did. LOL, adb. Glad you like the bow. The hair is real too. Mullet, glad you like the bow and the hair, my friend. Thanks, Timo, and thanks again for the stave. Jawge