i am thinking of an abo journey

[Blacktail]

i started out chipping with stone and bone..AND THEN IT HAPPEND ..A friend gave me a copper bopper....but i have been thinking about going back..but i want to learn with the tools that the Indians of Oregon used...and that probley depends on what side of the mountain you live on..blacktails on one side and muleys on the other..i see alot of guys using moose.BUT,i dont really know if moose have really been in oregon in that time period or if they where abundent then.SO,after all that.SORRY...so,my question is..how do i find out about moose in oregon....john

[Blacktail]

well i have been looking around and cant find any info..so, if i do this i will just get some moose.john

[Otoe Bow]

I found a single moose antler for sail at a road side vendor in Maine last fall for $25.  I just got around to cutting it down and shaping it for knapping.  So far I love it.  I've also got some pretty big whitetail racks to get shaped up.  I seem to slowly be working my way away from copper as well.  Good luck with your journey too.

Mike

[billy]

HEy John,

I'll bet that moose, buffalo, elk, etc probably inhabited a much larger portion of the lower 48 states than we think.  There were probably a LOT more animals in a lot more areas before whitey came along and started shooting them and killing them with new diseases brought in by domestic cattle, sheep and goats.  I'm sure that a lot of the indigenous animals were killed off by diseases that were brought in with domestic animals, just as the native populations were decimated by diseases brought in by Europeans.

I've read accounts that wild turkeys were so numerous in the eastern U.S. that there were flocks numbering almost 100.  Of course, whitey and his disrespectful slaughter of animals put a real quick end to that, and it took efforts of the Nat. Wild Turkey Federation to reintroduce them into their native habitats.  It really worries me, because for the most part that attitude hasn't changed, and now that humans are a global presence it means the entire planet is in jeopardy....     

[sailordad]

billy,  actually it wasnt hunting that almost ended the wild turkey,it was the clearing of habitat.
once most of the hardwood trees were cut for and by the lumber industry,the turkey lost a lot of roosting trees and
habitat that the hardwood forest privided them with.things as shelter,food and good nesting sites were soon depleted
due to the lumber industry.without those they made easy targets for preditors.

and yes the NWTF has done a lot of good for the return of the wild turkey.mostly due to transplating birds to new areas where they could
thrive again,also due to the fact the turkey can adapt quite quickly to new areas.

[Pat B]

Google..."moose in Oregon"!

[billy]

by the way, if you can find a good moose antler billet, you better grab it and run.  Moose antler knapping tools are at a premium and the price only continues to go up.

[D. Tiller]

The Turkey is one amazing bird! We have them here on the island and we have mostly coniferous trees here. But they are starting to thrive! They started showing up a few years ago when a guy accidentaly let them out of a pen where he was raising them. They have gone from 5 birds to upwards of 20 or so in just a few years. Only Coyotes on the island to hunt them. I am hoping the flock will become so big they will show up around my house so I can hunt them!

David T

[Knocker]

There was a moose in Yakima, Washington this summer that had to be chased out of town.  I've seen them in Elk, Washington (which is just North of Spokane) a few years ago.  I suspect they would have followed the Cascade mountain range South to Oregon.  There are getting to be enough moose in Eastern Washington that they have a special drawing to hunt them.

Keith