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Offline Stickhead

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Triggerfish-backed ERC
« on: March 07, 2009, 11:32:27 am »
Here’s my latest ERC attempt.  My last ERC selfbow exploded after about 30 arrows - an impressive double-limb blowout (I never even found the string). Since this stave was from the same tree, I decided I’d best back it.  Anyway, I’ve been dying to try triggerfish skin as a backing material for a while now.  I never heard of anybody using this, but somebody's probably done it before. 

For you landlubbers, grey triggerfish is a diamond-shaped deep sea fish that’s a pretty common on the east coast.  Instead of removable scales, it has an incredibly tough hide with a scaley pattern on it.  So on a trip to NC, I snagged a few whole fish from a seafood store, and saved the skins.  (The fish was delicious, by the way – tastes like red snapper.)

The thing is, these fish are only about 12” long from tip to tail, so I could only make strips 5-6” long, and overlap them along the back.  This is probably breaking a cardinal rule of backing, but what the heck, it worked.  And besides, I kinda like the reptilian look it gives it.  This bow took the skins of 3 triggerfish.  When this skin dries, it’s tough as steel, but it apparently has enough flexibility to bend without cracking or separating between layers.

The bow is pyramid-style, tapering from 1-7/8” to just under ½”.  It’s 68” nock-to-nock.  I made it a bit longer than most of my bows, on account of ERC’s tendency to take set (or break) at semi-heavy weights.  It pulls around 65 lbs at 26”, which was my target. Sometimes I can flip the tips a bit on ERC, but this one wouldn’t cooperate, so I left it straight.  It’s got about 1-¼” of set, which I’m good with.

ERC is pretty soft, so I added some deer hoof tip overlays, triggerfish skin strike plate, and a dyed jute wrap.  It shoots off my hand just fine.  I’m sure I could tweak the tiller a bit, but I like the way it shoots now, and I don’t want to lose any weight.

I’m new to backings, so I can’t compare it to much.  All I know is, it ain’t broke yet after 100 arrows or so, and it shoots way zippy.  I’d love to hear some advice from the backing experts out there.

...Tom

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Re: Triggerfish-backed ERC
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2009, 11:34:33 am »
that wood is really nice. Shame the last one broke, but you did a good job on this one. :)

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Re: Triggerfish-backed ERC
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2009, 11:41:36 am »
Hey stickhead that is an absolutely gorgeous bow. Red cedar is some beautful wood.Ron
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Offline Pat B

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Re: Triggerfish-backed ERC
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2009, 12:21:18 pm »
Nice bow, Stick! ERC does make a beautiful bow but also a spectacular explosion! I know from experience.  The trigger fish skin is cool also. The only cardinal rule for backings that I know is that they work properly and looks like yours has.
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Offline burn em up chuck

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Re: Triggerfish-backed ERC
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2009, 12:26:34 pm »
   very nice, coodos' for doing something diff. and experimenting.

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Offline DanaM

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Re: Triggerfish-backed ERC
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2009, 12:50:24 pm »
Man thats some cool 8) looking backing. Nice job and thanks fer sharing eh :)
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Re: Triggerfish-backed ERC
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2009, 12:52:11 pm »
that wod and skin combo is sweet dude
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Offline full quiver

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Re: Triggerfish-backed ERC
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2009, 12:53:50 pm »
Wow, that is a good looking bow. Really like the red cedar.
I've  been thinking about fish skin backings lately but never thought about looking at the fish market.
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Offline PeteC

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Re: Triggerfish-backed ERC
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2009, 02:08:45 pm »
That is really neat!!Great job..Did you have to chase a ring to end up with heartwood in the limbs? The cedar bows I've built were all whitewood in the limbs and a little red showing on the handle.Just curious. God Bless
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Offline xin

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Re: Triggerfish-backed ERC
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2009, 02:55:17 pm »
Very nice bow!!  I've got some ERC that's been sitting around for 6 or 7 yrs.  This inspires me to get to work on it.  Like you I think I 'll put on a backing, just haven't decided on which one yet.

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Re: Triggerfish-backed ERC
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2009, 03:02:31 pm »
Nice job dude. The skins really set the ERC off!

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Re: Triggerfish-backed ERC
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2009, 03:36:32 pm »
Well it does look pretty cool. I'm not a big erc fan for the reasons you mentioned. Just be careful you don't let the wood dry out to much because it gets extremely brittle. I've had two diferant well shot in erc bows blow to pieces on me after they set in the house ifor a few the months in the winter.
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Re: Triggerfish-backed ERC
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2009, 03:43:56 pm »
Excellent looking bow. I love the look of cedar, and those fish skins set it off well.
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Re: Triggerfish-backed ERC
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2009, 04:51:43 pm »
Never built a cedar bow, got lots of it round here,but I've never found a piece that wasn't full of knots. Ya did good on that one.

As for the skins: I like any kind of skins.Love to see something different.Perty cool.

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Re: Triggerfish-backed ERC
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2009, 05:41:14 pm »
Nice work!  That bow has some great color.  Hope it sticks around a little longer than the last one for you.
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